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February 17, 2018 – A little update about things just dragging out so much

Hello everyone! It’s been just really a long long while since my last post. I just can’t seem to feel motivated, because of anxiety and feeling a bit stressed. As you know, we’ve been trying to get married for months now, and every time it seems, we are being sent away, because there’s something else that is required by the law.

It would have been easier somewhat, if at least they could have told us what exactly we need to get all at once, instead of bit by bit every time we come back. Especially with things we need to get from the embassy in Vienna. It’s not exactly right around the corner and it’s not cheap to get there either.

If we would have been told everything we need to get, we could have done so when we were at the embassy in December. But in the office, they just tell us “Oh you just simply go to the embassy for that…”

Like the first time we’ve been to the registry office in Graz, where we’ve been told we need to get the certificate from the British embassy that confirms that Ralph is free to marry and that all his papers / documents are genuine. The other thing we’ve been told is that we need to have Ralph’s documents translated into German. I even asked if it has to be a special translator, like a court-approved one and I got the answer “No, it just needs to be simply translated into German and I can get that done by whomever I want “. That was all.

It took us a couple of weeks until we were able to go to Vienna. But eventually, we went to the British embassy in Vienna to get the certificate, which is called “Ehefähigkeitszeugnis” in German. Roughly translated it would be “MarriageAbilityCertificate”. The British embassy also specified that the document they give out is the “Ehefähigkeitszeugnis” and that they give out hundreds of them every year in Austria when a Brit marries an Austrian.

So, after that, we sorted out the translation of the divorce and marriage certificates of Ralph, except for his birth certificate, since we thought it’s silly to translate that, as it’s so obvious and easy to understand since its simply names and birth dates and places.

After that, we went back to the registry office in the end of January, and then suddenly, we were told that Ralph might have to get a new birth certificate and that it probably needs to be translated as well. The first time we’ve been at the registry office, the same person had seen us and that person did not say anything about the birth certificate eventually having to be new, even though they looked at it back then as well. Upon asking where we would get a new birth certificate, the answer was like I wrote above “You just simply go to the embassy in Vienna for that.” Why could they not mention that the first time? We can’t simply go to Vienna like that all the time, not to mention that it’s expensive.

But on that day, they took in our documents and everything and they said it might be fine like that anyway. We were told that the registrar would contact us.

And that contact happened this Friday, the 16th of February, via email to me. In that email, it said that there were some more documents needed for us to be able to get married.

So we need to get all the English documents translated by an official translator who would be court. As well, we need to get an Apostille for each of Ralph’s documents, which we can hopefully get via mail from the British government. But it seems like we can do that according to the British government website. I think it’s about 50£ for each Apostille.

Nothing about needing an Apostille was mentioned the previous times we have been there. Nothing at all.

Not even on their website. But it’s in the state laws, but how are we to know. You would think that the registry office would know and tell you everything that is needed.

But the last thing listed as being needed was exactly the document we had already given them, the certificate from the British embassy in Vienna.

Upset, I wrote back right away, explaining that we had already given them that document and that they should have it. And to let me know what’s up with that.

Later on, the person called me, telling me that the document was found, but that they’re not sure it will be accepted as “Ehefähigkeitszeugnis”. Seems like they haven’t seen it before. Apparently no British / Austrian marriages in my city, otherwise they would have known it. The embassy gives those out all the time and they’re accepted just fine in the rest of Austria apparently.

The thing is, that Austria is a bit similar to the US in the way that there’s federal law and state laws. Each state has their own laws to some degree.

But still, it’s an official document, it’s the exact thing they wanted. That’s just the way the British one is. Every countries documents look different. That’s what you get from them and we would not get anything different from the embassy, even if they won’t accept it.

I have been seriously thinking about getting married in England now and I will be looking into it. Since Ralph and I live here, I don’t know if it would be possible to just go to Ralph’s home country England, just to get married and then back to Austria again. But I will find out.

It might even work out easier and cheaper.

Though, I will get a call on Thursday, where we will be informed if the embassy certificate will be accepted or not.

So we will see.

Sigh… I’m really upset and Ralph is really upset. Even the cats were upset when we were totally upset on Friday, since they pick up the worried feelings up from us.

We feel a little better today, but not by much. We don’t sleep right, as it’s constantly in our minds.

I would have not been too upset about the other things, but that the highly official certificate from the British embassy might not be accepted, that’s just something we would have never expected.

We love each other so much, and we want to be family and married. It’s security also, as once we’re married, we have rights. If something were to happen to either of us, we would have no right to speak to doctors or make decisions we know that the other would want. And most of all, we found in each other the love of our lives, and we want to be husband and wife forever.

We’re about to go to sleep now lol. I hope that this blog post will help me feel better since I could get it out like that.

Otherwise, we’re happy and healthy, as are our 3 kitties 😽😽😽

I will reply to the sweet comments tomorrow and post a couple more uplifting things, like cat pictures!😸 Yay!

Thanks everyone for reading and for being the lovely kind friends that you are.

Night, night from Ralph, Murli, Samantha, Sonic and me☺️😽😽😽☺️✨🌙💤💤💤💤💤

10 thoughts on “February 17, 2018 – A little update about things just dragging out so much

  1. Oh if you could hear me cursing Natascha & Ralph…..UNBELIEVABLE the rigmarole you both are being put through!! I think it is a good idea to see if going to UK to get married would be easier. This all is so stupid & you should have been told everything from the beginning. I will say a prayer that things will be resolved soon so that you can get married. Sending GOOD LUCK & lots of love, Sherri-Ellen & Siddhartha Henry =^,.^=

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    1. Sigh… It’s really unbelievable. In comparison, sorting out Ralph’s permanent legal resident status for Austria, was no problem and not at all difficult! You’d think that something like that would be a lot more difficult and complicated, but it wasn’t at all. It was quick, they clearly told us what was required and they accepted all the English documents without a problem. No extra certifications or translations wer needed. They were quick and simple with it.

      The same thing was true for getting Ralph into the health care and social security system, with him getting his own social security number. It was really easy too! The British government sent the required paperwork for it and the social and national health care place accepted everything without a problem, despite it all being in English.

      Basically, we had no problems anywhere, except for trying to get married. It is already taking since September 2017, as we’ve been trying it since then. It started with us trying to get the Certificate for Ralph being free to marry from the British consulate in Graz, since it said on the British government website that we can get it there. But after going there twice (the first time they were closed for a week) we have been told by a very rude unfriendly person in the British consulate that they don’t give out any documents like that and that we need to go to Vienna for that.

      The rest of it is at I wrote it above. And so much time wen by in between, as it’s not possible for us to go to Vienna like that for a day, due to health, and financial reasons.

      We both are really shaken up over the embassy certificate possibly not being accepted, as that’s just beyond words.

      Oh sorry for ranting again… Sigh! I thank you so very much for your wonderful comment, your lovely words and empathy and your prayer. We definitely need it🙏

      But we are still trying to keep our heads up and stay positive. We will get married, even if we have to go the UK to do it. I hope I’ll find out about that possibility next week.

      We are having a cosy evening with the 3 kitties. It’s cold out there but nice and warm inside. The cats have eaten and are cleaning themselves 😸

      Thinking of you and the sweet Purrince! Love and hugs from us all, and lots of purrs and head rubs from the cats 😽😽😽 🤗 🤗 💕

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    1. Aww! Thank you dear Mia! It’s really comforting to read lovely comments like yours and the others.
      It’s something that I have never expected in my country of Austria. Not to such an extent like official government documents no being accepted and already original official go documents needing even more government certification. It’s like they require a certificate, that needs a certification and that certification needing another certification. Lol.

      But let’s hope it works out and they accept the embassy certificate. We will know on Thursday and I will write an update on it.

      Take good care of yourself too! Hugs and love, Natascha, Ralph and the cats 💕

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      1. Natascha, thank you for your kind reply. Both you and Ralph will be in my thoughts as you wait to hear on Thursday, fingers crossed you won’t need the certificate of certification of the certification certifying the government document is certifiable. Sending much love your way. ~ Mia and The Kits >^.^<

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  2. i am so sorry about all of this that they are putting you through. the things we do for love – i am confident that the two of you, and your love, will triumph over red tape in the end )

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    1. How sweet! 😻 Thank you for your wonderful comment dear ksbeth!

      Yes! There’s nothing that will stop us getting married. Even if we have to get married in the UK. We are both free to get married and have all our paperwork and documents. So it has to be possible. We’ll find a way. It’s just so draining and upsetting. We just do understand the need for such over the top bureaucracy like that. Especially for people from within the EU and where it’s not an issue of citizenship. Ralph is legal permanent resident even without me or getting married.

      I will let you all know what comes out on Thursday. Hopefully something positive!

      Take care! Hugs and love, Natascha 💕

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  3. Hello Natascha and Ralph
    What an awful frustrating time for you both. It really sounds like the officials are messing you around. I hope things get sorted very soon for you, and you are able to get married.
    I look forward to seeing the wedding photos 🙂
    Stay positive and things will eventually work out.
    Lots of love from Spainxx

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    1. On thank you for your wonderful comment! 🤗We will be soooooo glad and happy when all of this is done and we finally get married. It will feel awesome! We just keep going and doing everything we can and we definitely won’t give up. Maybe as you say, things work out soon. For now we can just wait till Thursday.

      So lovely to see you here. Take care, lots of love from us in Austria 💕

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  4. That sounds do frustrating, all that paperwork. They are paper pushers and haven’t got a clue. When you first went , they could have given you a list what is required and then you could have all got it. I have a feeling they don’t know what is required. I do think getting married in England is a lot easier. I know you will persevere and I am sure it will work out. Believe you can do it and stay positive. Enjoy your many cuddles, Ralph and the cats! Hugs from Ute

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